WEBVTT 00:00:03.767 --> 00:00:05.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Ballard Commons Park. 00:00:05.367 --> 00:00:08.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It was shut down in December of 2021 00:00:08.334 --> 00:00:09.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% after a major homeless encampment 00:00:09.968 --> 00:00:11.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% essentially took it over. 00:00:11.567 --> 00:00:14.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Here in the first quarter of 2023, 00:00:14.133 --> 00:00:16.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the city of Seattle is set to reopen it. 00:00:16.467 --> 00:00:17.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, what took so long? 00:00:17.767 --> 00:00:20.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And what measures are being put in place to ensure 00:00:20.200 --> 00:00:22.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% this doesn't become a homeless encampment again? 00:00:22.934 --> 00:00:24.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm Brian Callanan. 00:00:24.234 --> 00:00:26.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm talking with council member Dan Strauss, 00:00:26.300 --> 00:00:29.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% whose district includes this area here in northwest Seattle. 00:00:29.367 --> 00:00:31.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% He'll be answering those questions and more 00:00:31.267 --> 00:00:33.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% coming up on "Council Edition." 00:00:33.033 --> 00:00:35.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The design review is broken. 00:00:35.601 --> 00:00:38.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It doesn't give the community the opportunity 00:00:38.968 --> 00:00:42.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to have meaningful input, and it takes too long. 00:00:42.834 --> 00:00:44.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% All that and more coming up next 00:00:44.734 --> 00:00:47.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% on "City Inside Out: Council Edition." 00:00:47.234 --> 00:00:53.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:00:53.033 --> 00:00:58.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:00:58.801 --> 00:01:04.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:01:04.667 --> 00:01:06.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And here I am with council member Dan Strauss. 00:01:06.901 --> 00:01:09.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We are hanging out in District Six. 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I appreciate it. 00:01:11.467 --> 00:01:12.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We're at Hattie's Hat. 00:01:12.901 --> 00:01:15.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We were at one of the street cafes here on Ballard Ave. 00:01:15.501 --> 00:01:17.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I wanted to talk to you here 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because you've been doing a lot of work on these street cafes. 00:01:19.434 --> 00:01:21.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I think you've turned this into a pretty unique place -- 00:01:21.567 --> 00:01:23.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% at least the council has, and the work it's done 00:01:23.534 --> 00:01:24.667 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% with street cafes. 00:01:24.667 --> 00:01:25.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But let me know about this. 00:01:25.834 --> 00:01:27.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% This is something that has really changed. 00:01:27.167 --> 00:01:29.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It used to be a temporary type of thing. 00:01:29.434 --> 00:01:31.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% The city actually gave out permits for free 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to restaurants and stores that wanted to do this. 00:01:33.234 --> 00:01:34.834 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Now, it's a permanent thing. 00:01:34.834 --> 00:01:36.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% They're paying for these permits, et cetera. 00:01:36.567 --> 00:01:38.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Can you let me know about this whole process 00:01:38.601 --> 00:01:41.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% of making this into a permanent addition to Seattle, 00:01:41.067 --> 00:01:42.300 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% these street cafes? 00:01:42.300 --> 00:01:45.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, so we have finally gotten to the last step 00:01:45.100 --> 00:01:48.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in the pathway to permanency for outdoor dining here in Seattle. 00:01:48.834 --> 00:01:52.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, outdoor dining in Seattle is here to stay. 00:01:52.033 --> 00:01:55.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It is gonna be a permanent thread in our city's fabric. 00:01:55.534 --> 00:01:58.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And we have opportunities all over the city 00:01:58.367 --> 00:01:59.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% for outdoor dining. 00:01:59.634 --> 00:02:01.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% What's interesting here on Ballard Avenue 00:02:01.467 --> 00:02:02.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% is we're using Ballard Avenue 00:02:02.767 --> 00:02:06.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% as a pilot for a commercial street. 00:02:06.868 --> 00:02:07.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Okay. -Right? 00:02:07.934 --> 00:02:10.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, we're using the outdoor dining, 00:02:10.267 --> 00:02:11.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% but there's also outdoor retail. 00:02:11.901 --> 00:02:13.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Right. I've seen that, too. 00:02:13.133 --> 00:02:16.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And how do we attract people into this space 00:02:16.567 --> 00:02:18.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to promote economic activity? 00:02:18.267 --> 00:02:20.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Because it sounds like there's a lot more foot traffic here, 00:02:20.367 --> 00:02:22.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in talking with some business owners here. 00:02:22.200 --> 00:02:23.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% It's a one-way street, now. 00:02:23.801 --> 00:02:25.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know Escott made the changes there 00:02:25.167 --> 00:02:26.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in the Department of Transportation. 00:02:26.801 --> 00:02:28.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But this street has really been reborn in a lot of ways. 00:02:28.667 --> 00:02:31.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I think there's a lot more people walking here. 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:32.400 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Pedestrians feel safer. 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And it's it just attracts more people to businesses. 00:02:34.467 --> 00:02:35.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yes. 00:02:35.801 --> 00:02:37.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And the success here is because of business owners' 00:02:37.801 --> 00:02:39.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% entrepreneurial spirit. -Right. 00:02:39.534 --> 00:02:41.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -So, I worked with Escott 00:02:41.434 --> 00:02:44.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to make sure that they helped be flexible 00:02:44.200 --> 00:02:46.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and make these changes for the one-way. 00:02:46.267 --> 00:02:48.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But as we sit in this street cafe, 00:02:48.167 --> 00:02:51.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you can see that it's so unique. 00:02:51.267 --> 00:02:53.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I mean, Hattie's Hat has -- 00:02:53.300 --> 00:02:54.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% they've been an icon... -It's an icon for many years. 00:02:54.968 --> 00:02:56.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -...so many years. 00:02:56.367 --> 00:02:58.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And they've taken the extra step 00:02:58.267 --> 00:03:02.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to make these windows open or close. 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We've got these special propane hits. 00:03:04.033 --> 00:03:07.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You can see these are unique benches. 00:03:07.067 --> 00:03:09.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We've got other cafes on this street, as well. 00:03:09.300 --> 00:03:11.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Skal Beer hall, Cafe Oaxaca, 00:03:11.868 --> 00:03:14.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so many others that are using their entrepreneurial spirit 00:03:14.701 --> 00:03:16.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to make this a unique space. 00:03:16.300 --> 00:03:17.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I guess I'm trying to figure out -- 00:03:17.734 --> 00:03:19.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the devil is always in the details, 00:03:19.133 --> 00:03:22.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because you have to have certain design specifications for these. 00:03:22.567 --> 00:03:23.868 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% And how do you do that? 00:03:23.868 --> 00:03:25.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It looks like that's part of the work that's happening 00:03:25.300 --> 00:03:26.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in early 2023, here, 00:03:26.934 --> 00:03:28.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% figuring out those design standards, 00:03:28.367 --> 00:03:30.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so that you have a safe space here. 00:03:30.133 --> 00:03:31.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You have a place that, hopefully, 00:03:31.467 --> 00:03:33.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% doesn't get tagged with graffiti, et cetera. 00:03:33.167 --> 00:03:35.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You have a place that people can walk by, can get by, 00:03:35.968 --> 00:03:37.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% people who might have disabilities 00:03:37.300 --> 00:03:38.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% can make sure they get by. 00:03:38.667 --> 00:03:39.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know you have a few people who are saying, 00:03:39.701 --> 00:03:41.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "Where's my parking out there?" 00:03:41.100 --> 00:03:42.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That's a whole nother crowd. 00:03:42.267 --> 00:03:43.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Fewer than we expected. -Is that right? Okay. 00:03:43.901 --> 00:03:47.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Because we are able to still maintain some parking 00:03:47.067 --> 00:03:48.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and maintain the space for outdoor dining. 00:03:48.868 --> 00:03:50.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:03:50.334 --> 00:03:52.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Ballard is also so different than it was 10 years ago. 00:03:52.234 --> 00:03:55.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We've got thousands of units of housing coming online 00:03:55.267 --> 00:03:58.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% within a half mile of here just in the next few years. 00:03:58.367 --> 00:04:00.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, with more people living nearby -- 00:04:00.767 --> 00:04:02.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% this is the benefit of density. 00:04:02.367 --> 00:04:04.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'll tell you, when I was younger, growing up, 00:04:04.300 --> 00:04:06.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I had trouble with density in Ballard, 00:04:06.901 --> 00:04:10.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because it was tearing down the neighborhood that I grew up in. 00:04:10.033 --> 00:04:13.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And today, we are experiencing the benefit of having 00:04:13.133 --> 00:04:14.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so many new neighbors. 00:04:14.501 --> 00:04:17.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Ballard Avenue is alive because we have so many people 00:04:17.334 --> 00:04:18.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% living nearby. 00:04:18.801 --> 00:04:21.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And we're using Ballard Avenue as this pilot 00:04:21.300 --> 00:04:24.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for these commercial economic activity streets -- 00:04:24.767 --> 00:04:26.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% cafes, you know -- 00:04:26.367 --> 00:04:27.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% [ Indistinct talking ] 00:04:27.501 --> 00:04:29.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because -- and those are two separate things. 00:04:29.267 --> 00:04:32.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, the outdoor dining pathway to permanency, 00:04:32.934 --> 00:04:34.834 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% that is done, complete. 00:04:34.834 --> 00:04:37.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% All the mayor has to do is sign the bill, and we're good to go. 00:04:37.367 --> 00:04:39.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I'm expecting him to do so because we're friends. 00:04:39.400 --> 00:04:40.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Right. 00:04:40.901 --> 00:04:44.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And the second avenue of this is, how do we use Ballard Avenue 00:04:44.934 --> 00:04:46.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as a pilot for citywide? 00:04:46.734 --> 00:04:48.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You were saying before we got started, 00:04:48.234 --> 00:04:50.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% California Avenue in West Seattle 00:04:50.300 --> 00:04:52.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% isn't gonna be able to do what Ballard Avenue's done. 00:04:52.701 --> 00:04:54.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -They have some outdoor cafes, but it's different. 00:04:54.634 --> 00:04:56.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It's a two way street. It's an arterial. 00:04:56.133 --> 00:04:57.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -That's right. 00:04:57.234 --> 00:04:58.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And so, the benefit of Ballard Avenue 00:04:58.501 --> 00:05:00.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is it is cut off at the Ballard Bridge 00:05:00.534 --> 00:05:02.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it's cut off at Market Street. 00:05:02.067 --> 00:05:04.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, it really allows us 00:05:04.167 --> 00:05:06.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to play with some of these details 00:05:06.133 --> 00:05:07.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in a way that we can't in other places. 00:05:07.834 --> 00:05:09.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, the street that -- 00:05:09.467 --> 00:05:11.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the outdoor dining pergolas here on Ballard Avenue 00:05:11.434 --> 00:05:15.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% are allowed to be wider than in other places. 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:16.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And there's still more work to do 00:05:16.400 --> 00:05:17.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because we're in a historic district. 00:05:17.834 --> 00:05:19.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Right. 00:05:19.334 --> 00:05:21.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -So we need to be able to meet historic district guidelines. 00:05:21.100 --> 00:05:22.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:05:22.534 --> 00:05:24.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And that's the steps that we'll be taking in early 2023. 00:05:24.667 --> 00:05:25.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, great. 00:05:25.901 --> 00:05:27.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I heard you talk about density, 00:05:27.267 --> 00:05:28.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but I want to put a pin in that for a second, 00:05:28.801 --> 00:05:31.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because there's some other big news going on here, 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% not too far from where we are, up in Ballard Commons. 00:05:33.767 --> 00:05:36.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm talking about that area that was shut down 00:05:36.067 --> 00:05:37.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in December of 2021. 00:05:37.834 --> 00:05:39.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% A lot of concerns over a homeless encampment 00:05:39.868 --> 00:05:41.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that had grown there, and a lot of neighbors 00:05:41.634 --> 00:05:42.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% were concerned about that. 00:05:42.868 --> 00:05:44.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I want to ask the two questions 00:05:44.234 --> 00:05:45.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that I think a lot of people are asking. 00:05:45.901 --> 00:05:47.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It looks like it's gonna be opening in the first quarter 00:05:47.734 --> 00:05:50.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of this year, so why did it take so long? 00:05:50.200 --> 00:05:52.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And how do you create a situation such that 00:05:52.701 --> 00:05:54.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it does not become a homeless encampment again? 00:05:54.901 --> 00:05:56.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Absolutely. 00:05:56.300 --> 00:05:58.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, sometimes it takes a long time to make improvements. 00:05:58.901 --> 00:06:01.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I mean, the Parks Department is working hard, 00:06:01.334 --> 00:06:02.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% working their hardest that they can, 00:06:02.701 --> 00:06:05.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and they've got parks. all across our city 00:06:05.033 --> 00:06:06.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that they have to attend to. 00:06:06.200 --> 00:06:09.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, we're still waiting on two things -- 00:06:09.868 --> 00:06:11.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% some new benches in the park, 00:06:11.567 --> 00:06:12.934 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and they just finished 00:06:12.934 --> 00:06:14.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% installing the lighting in December, 00:06:14.567 --> 00:06:16.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and we're gonna add a little bit more. 00:06:16.033 --> 00:06:18.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -As part of the renovations. -As part of the renovation. 00:06:18.334 --> 00:06:21.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You know, part of what took so long was we were hoping 00:06:21.367 --> 00:06:23.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that the construction on the children's playground 00:06:23.334 --> 00:06:25.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that I secured money for could start now. 00:06:25.234 --> 00:06:26.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:06:26.601 --> 00:06:28.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Unfortunately, the permits are just finalizing now, 00:06:28.501 --> 00:06:32.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so, rather than -- we had hoped that we could just take down 00:06:32.434 --> 00:06:34.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% all of the fences, and leave that section fenced. 00:06:34.601 --> 00:06:36.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. -But we can't wait. 00:06:36.801 --> 00:06:38.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, we're gonna take down all the fences, 00:06:38.601 --> 00:06:41.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and then put new fences back up once that construction starts. 00:06:41.701 --> 00:06:42.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:06:42.767 --> 00:06:44.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And you want to talk about 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:46.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% how will we prevent re-encampments in this space. 00:06:46.267 --> 00:06:47.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Please. 00:06:47.801 --> 00:06:49.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, Woodland Park, which had a larger homeless encampment -- 00:06:49.734 --> 00:06:51.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so, Ballard Commons and Woodland Park, 00:06:51.601 --> 00:06:55.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we used the same model of resolving the encampment, 00:06:55.133 --> 00:06:58.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% which was, we took a census of everyone living there, 00:06:58.167 --> 00:06:59.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we took a needs assessment of what they -- 00:06:59.901 --> 00:07:01.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% what type of shelter they would take, 00:07:01.734 --> 00:07:03.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and then we took the time to get them into that shelter. 00:07:03.801 --> 00:07:04.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:07:04.901 --> 00:07:06.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -This model is extremely effective. 00:07:06.834 --> 00:07:08.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:07:08.267 --> 00:07:09.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We've seen the Regional Homelessness Authority use this 00:07:09.767 --> 00:07:12.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in a variety of ways, and in a number of places since then. 00:07:12.033 --> 00:07:14.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we see that, when we use this type of model, 00:07:14.868 --> 00:07:16.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we don't see re-encampments. 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:17.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:07:17.534 --> 00:07:18.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The other two things that have changed 00:07:18.801 --> 00:07:21.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% since Ballard Commons was resolved 00:07:21.834 --> 00:07:25.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is Deputy Mayor Washington and I worked together 00:07:25.033 --> 00:07:27.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to resolve the Woodland Park encampment. 00:07:27.601 --> 00:07:30.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% From that, we used that model 00:07:30.100 --> 00:07:33.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as a pilot for the Unified Care team. 00:07:33.267 --> 00:07:35.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Yes. Which is all over the city. 00:07:35.367 --> 00:07:36.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Yeah. 00:07:36.501 --> 00:07:38.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And, you know, when Mayor Murray 00:07:38.334 --> 00:07:40.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% announced the civil state of emergency, 00:07:40.701 --> 00:07:42.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% he opened up the emergency operations center 00:07:42.968 --> 00:07:44.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to address homelessness. 00:07:44.033 --> 00:07:45.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The state of emergency on homelessness. 00:07:45.601 --> 00:07:46.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Right. -Yep. 00:07:46.667 --> 00:07:48.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The civil state of emergency. 00:07:48.100 --> 00:07:50.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, when that happened, he brought in decision makers 00:07:50.868 --> 00:07:53.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% from every department into the same room 00:07:53.400 --> 00:07:55.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to address the situations in real time. 00:07:55.167 --> 00:07:56.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:07:56.234 --> 00:07:59.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -In 2023, using Teams and Zoom... 00:07:59.133 --> 00:08:00.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Right. 00:08:00.601 --> 00:08:03.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -...We can now have an emergency operations center virtually. 00:08:03.734 --> 00:08:05.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And that's what they are. 00:08:05.133 --> 00:08:06.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And that's what the Unified Care team is. 00:08:06.701 --> 00:08:08.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:08:08.167 --> 00:08:09.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And so, the next steps that I've been working with 00:08:09.767 --> 00:08:12.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Deputy Mayor Washington and others on 00:08:12.801 --> 00:08:13.968 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% is making it regional, 00:08:13.968 --> 00:08:16.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so that we can have five Unified Care teams. 00:08:16.300 --> 00:08:18.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Different parts of the city, essentially. 00:08:18.234 --> 00:08:20.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And to focus on that part. -Yeah. Okay. 00:08:20.200 --> 00:08:23.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Because right now, we have one team for the whole city. 00:08:23.067 --> 00:08:24.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:08:24.467 --> 00:08:26.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -So whether it's Dell Ridge, Lake City, Columbia City... 00:08:26.501 --> 00:08:28.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Right. -...Crown Hill, 00:08:28.267 --> 00:08:30.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it is one team for the whole city. 00:08:30.200 --> 00:08:31.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And I just -- Can I jump in? 00:08:31.601 --> 00:08:32.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Sure. And I've got two more answers. 00:08:32.667 --> 00:08:33.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Please. Please. 00:08:33.767 --> 00:08:34.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I want to make sure that I do this. 00:08:34.968 --> 00:08:36.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I just want to help people understand this -- 00:08:36.167 --> 00:08:37.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We have this Regional Homelessness Authority 00:08:37.868 --> 00:08:39.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that's working on a lot of things, 00:08:39.267 --> 00:08:41.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% including shelter, including housing. 00:08:41.067 --> 00:08:43.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But when it comes to this actual work with the encampments, 00:08:43.367 --> 00:08:44.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and people need to be moved, 00:08:44.634 --> 00:08:46.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for example, that is the city's job, right? 00:08:46.901 --> 00:08:49.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% This is the Unified Care team's job that has to do 00:08:49.300 --> 00:08:50.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that piece of it, that interaction. 00:08:50.634 --> 00:08:51.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Is that right? 00:08:51.701 --> 00:08:52.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I want to make sure I get that right. 00:08:52.767 --> 00:08:54.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -So, the Regional Homelessness Authority 00:08:54.133 --> 00:08:55.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% is focused on Chinatown International. 00:08:55.934 --> 00:08:57.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:08:57.167 --> 00:08:58.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And so, I'll get to talking about 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:59.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Partnership for Zero in just a second. 00:08:59.634 --> 00:09:01.033 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:09:01.033 --> 00:09:02.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -But I just wanted to focus on the difference between 00:09:02.968 --> 00:09:05.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% one Unified Care team and regional. 00:09:05.601 --> 00:09:07.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:09:07.634 --> 00:09:09.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Because if -- when we were working on Woodland Park, 00:09:09.968 --> 00:09:12.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that meant that we were taking citywide resources. 00:09:12.300 --> 00:09:15.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, if there was a problem in Del Ridge, 00:09:15.167 --> 00:09:16.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it couldn't necessarily be addressed, 00:09:16.634 --> 00:09:18.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because we were attending to Woodland Park. 00:09:18.300 --> 00:09:19.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Got it. 00:09:19.901 --> 00:09:21.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -As we transfer into regional teams, 00:09:21.434 --> 00:09:25.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it allows the same city workers to work in the same places, 00:09:25.067 --> 00:09:27.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so that they know, is trash getting worse? 00:09:27.167 --> 00:09:28.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Is it getting better? 00:09:28.567 --> 00:09:30.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Are the people that they're working with getting better, 00:09:30.501 --> 00:09:32.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or are they getting worse? -Okay. Okay. 00:09:32.300 --> 00:09:34.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It allows the same people to be in the same places, 00:09:34.934 --> 00:09:36.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and create those relationships. 00:09:36.400 --> 00:09:37.667 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:09:37.667 --> 00:09:39.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% The other thing that has happened is, as you were saying, 00:09:39.801 --> 00:09:41.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the Regional Homelessness Authority 00:09:41.501 --> 00:09:45.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% opened their pipeline into shelter and housing 00:09:45.300 --> 00:09:46.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% with their Partnership for Zero. 00:09:46.701 --> 00:09:49.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% They're focused in Chinatown and International district. 00:09:49.501 --> 00:09:51.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And this has been five years in the making. 00:09:51.801 --> 00:09:53.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And Partnership for Zero -- I'll just jump in. 00:09:53.567 --> 00:09:56.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Philanthropy is jumping in with these different agencies 00:09:56.167 --> 00:09:57.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% to help out. 00:09:57.267 --> 00:09:58.434 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Keep going. 00:09:58.434 --> 00:09:59.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I wanted to make sure I pointed that out. 00:09:59.634 --> 00:10:00.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And it's the same model, where you do a census, 00:10:00.767 --> 00:10:02.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% you do a needs assessment, 00:10:02.133 --> 00:10:04.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and then you connect people with shelter and housing. 00:10:04.601 --> 00:10:07.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% The benefit that the Regional Homelessness Authority has 00:10:07.234 --> 00:10:09.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% is that they have resources all across our county, 00:10:09.501 --> 00:10:11.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and in many -- and in some cases, 00:10:11.434 --> 00:10:13.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% they're able to skip shelter. 00:10:13.534 --> 00:10:16.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, they can take people off the street. 00:10:16.367 --> 00:10:18.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Because if we keep spending money on shelter, 00:10:18.334 --> 00:10:20.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we're never gonna get out of this problem. 00:10:20.267 --> 00:10:23.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And if we don't have shelter capacity right now, 00:10:23.367 --> 00:10:25.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then, we can't get people off the streets. 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But with the regional Homelessness Authority 00:10:27.334 --> 00:10:30.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% able to skip shelter, 00:10:30.067 --> 00:10:31.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we can do this faster and cheaper. 00:10:31.934 --> 00:10:33.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And I did want to ask about this, 00:10:33.400 --> 00:10:35.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because I've talked with Mark Doane, 00:10:35.033 --> 00:10:37.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% who's the C.E.O. of the Regional Homelessness Authority, 00:10:37.968 --> 00:10:39.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and he's very bullish on this idea that, 00:10:39.467 --> 00:10:40.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% sometime this year, 00:10:40.901 --> 00:10:42.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we're gonna get to a functional zero, 00:10:42.334 --> 00:10:43.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% as it call -- as it's called, 00:10:43.701 --> 00:10:46.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% with regard to homelessness in the downtown core. 00:10:46.801 --> 00:10:48.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I've asked a few different legislators, and lawmakers, 00:10:48.934 --> 00:10:50.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and people connected to this story this question, 00:10:50.601 --> 00:10:52.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% but do you think that's gonna happen? 00:10:52.367 --> 00:10:55.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Do you feel -- Do you feel as bullish as he does about that -- 00:10:55.300 --> 00:10:57.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that whole idea of a functional zero downtown? 00:10:57.801 --> 00:10:59.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think the model is in place. 00:10:59.434 --> 00:11:01.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And what it comes down to is funding, 00:11:01.334 --> 00:11:02.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and partnerships, and places. 00:11:02.934 --> 00:11:04.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. -Right? 00:11:04.100 --> 00:11:06.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, we saw Canmore and Lake Forest Park 00:11:06.067 --> 00:11:07.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% also enter into the agreement 00:11:07.334 --> 00:11:09.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% with the Regional Homelessness Authority. 00:11:09.234 --> 00:11:10.601 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% That is good news. 00:11:10.601 --> 00:11:13.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% What we need are more partners in other cities 00:11:13.901 --> 00:11:15.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% throughout the county. 00:11:15.133 --> 00:11:18.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We also need everyone to be funding -- 00:11:18.701 --> 00:11:22.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Mark will often say,, "I can solve as much as you 00:11:22.534 --> 00:11:24.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% give me the resources to solve." 00:11:24.601 --> 00:11:26.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% If you give me, you know, one piece of bread, 00:11:26.934 --> 00:11:29.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% can I make a sandwich? No. Right? 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, you know, the city, the county, 00:11:31.701 --> 00:11:34.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% other suburban cities, need to be realistic that, 00:11:34.400 --> 00:11:36.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if we're going to address homelessness, 00:11:36.801 --> 00:11:39.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we have to spend the money that is required to do so. 00:11:39.434 --> 00:11:42.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We had the Deputy Secretary of HUD out here. 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Right. Not too long ago. Right. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:45.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Their words -- 00:11:45.334 --> 00:11:48.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I didn't realize what we're doing here in the city. 00:11:48.300 --> 00:11:49.534 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Right? 00:11:49.534 --> 00:11:51.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You go to so many other places in our country, 00:11:51.300 --> 00:11:54.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and you plop into a city that's experiencing home-- 00:11:54.300 --> 00:11:56.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that has a high level of homelessness, 00:11:56.767 --> 00:11:59.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and 10 different people will give you 10 different answers 00:11:59.167 --> 00:12:00.667 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% on how to solve it. 00:12:00.667 --> 00:12:04.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Here in Seattle, we've got everyone saying the same thing, 00:12:04.033 --> 00:12:05.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% which is that you address -- 00:12:05.934 --> 00:12:08.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% you do the census, the needs assessment, 00:12:08.701 --> 00:12:10.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% get them into shelter and housing, 00:12:10.334 --> 00:12:12.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and -- and you meet people's needs. 00:12:12.334 --> 00:12:14.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -It's that whole question of, though, 00:12:14.133 --> 00:12:15.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% how much money is it gonna really take? 00:12:15.801 --> 00:12:17.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I know this has been a big question. 00:12:17.467 --> 00:12:18.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We're putting too much. We're not -- 00:12:18.934 --> 00:12:21.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It's not a question of money, things of this nature. 00:12:21.501 --> 00:12:23.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Are we short by X amount of million, 00:12:23.334 --> 00:12:24.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% or where are we with that? 00:12:24.834 --> 00:12:27.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Is there a -- Is there a figure that you know of that can say, 00:12:27.901 --> 00:12:29.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% here's what we're -- where we need to go? 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:30.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Or is that the RHA's purview? 00:12:30.901 --> 00:12:34.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% McKinstry put out the -- the number in 2017 00:12:34.300 --> 00:12:37.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that the city needs to be spending $200 million per year 00:12:37.667 --> 00:12:38.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% on affordable housing. 00:12:38.667 --> 00:12:39.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Right. 00:12:39.834 --> 00:12:41.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Last year was the first time we did that. 00:12:41.234 --> 00:12:43.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This year is the second. Next year will be the third. 00:12:43.601 --> 00:12:44.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yes. -Right? 00:12:44.767 --> 00:12:46.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, the city of Seattle is doing our part. 00:12:46.634 --> 00:12:47.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It's in the budget. Right. 00:12:47.868 --> 00:12:50.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And when you watch the State of the State speech 00:12:50.400 --> 00:12:52.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% by Governor Inslee this week, 00:12:52.167 --> 00:12:55.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% he made overtures about the state's responsibility 00:12:55.667 --> 00:12:58.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for funding the solutions to these problems. 00:12:58.167 --> 00:12:59.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The county's there. 00:12:59.601 --> 00:13:02.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We need our suburban cities to join us, because as we -- 00:13:02.701 --> 00:13:05.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, Seattle bears a burden of the regional problem 00:13:05.534 --> 00:13:06.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because we're the county seat. 00:13:06.734 --> 00:13:07.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yes. Yeah. 00:13:07.767 --> 00:13:09.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -There are so many county programs 00:13:09.567 --> 00:13:11.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that are here in the city of Seattle 00:13:11.067 --> 00:13:13.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because we are the seat of the county. 00:13:13.133 --> 00:13:14.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:13:14.267 --> 00:13:16.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And everyone bears the responsibility 00:13:16.400 --> 00:13:17.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% of addressing homelessness. 00:13:17.834 --> 00:13:18.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Thank you. 00:13:18.901 --> 00:13:20.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I'm glad you brought up 00:13:20.033 --> 00:13:21.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% what Governor Inslee was talking about, 00:13:21.334 --> 00:13:23.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because he's been talking about a lot of ways 00:13:23.067 --> 00:13:24.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to try to make sure that there is -- 00:13:24.467 --> 00:13:26.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% there is enough density in Washington City 00:13:26.334 --> 00:13:28.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% such that we can build this housing. 00:13:28.267 --> 00:13:30.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that's a good way to segue to the comprehensive plan, 00:13:30.801 --> 00:13:31.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if I could, with you. 00:13:31.901 --> 00:13:33.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Let's talk about where we are with this. 00:13:33.467 --> 00:13:36.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This is basically the future blueprint of Seattle. 00:13:36.267 --> 00:13:38.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% The State Growth Management Act 00:13:38.234 --> 00:13:39.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% says we've got to do this about every decade, 00:13:39.868 --> 00:13:40.868 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% so let's get on it. 00:13:40.868 --> 00:13:42.100 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% It's time for Seattle. 00:13:42.100 --> 00:13:43.734 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% It's due up in 2024. 00:13:43.734 --> 00:13:46.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% That's what this process is supposed to be done. 00:13:46.033 --> 00:13:47.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But this is where it gets very interesting, 00:13:47.634 --> 00:13:49.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because there are a number of alternatives 00:13:49.934 --> 00:13:51.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in front of the council right now. 00:13:51.434 --> 00:13:53.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I'd like for you to give us an overview of that process, 00:13:53.801 --> 00:13:55.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and then maybe I can dive into some details with you. 00:13:55.901 --> 00:13:57.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Where are we with the comp plan, Right? 00:13:57.400 --> 00:13:59.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, and those alternatives are actually before the public. 00:13:59.767 --> 00:14:01.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They're not before the council. -That's right. Good point. 00:14:01.801 --> 00:14:03.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And right now -- 00:14:03.801 --> 00:14:06.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, Office of Planning and Community Development 00:14:06.300 --> 00:14:07.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is leading this work. 00:14:07.467 --> 00:14:08.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yep. 00:14:08.567 --> 00:14:09.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm the Land Use chair, 00:14:09.634 --> 00:14:10.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so it will come before my committee. 00:14:10.868 --> 00:14:13.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And it's OPC that's leading this work. 00:14:13.267 --> 00:14:17.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, over this last summer, they did a scoping analysis 00:14:17.734 --> 00:14:19.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for their environmental impact statement. 00:14:19.934 --> 00:14:22.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And this is just general broad strokes of 00:14:22.501 --> 00:14:24.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% what do people want to see? 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% On their website, they have the report about that. 00:14:26.701 --> 00:14:29.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And right now, they're doing community engagement 00:14:29.934 --> 00:14:31.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% on that scoping report. 00:14:31.367 --> 00:14:32.868 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:14:32.868 --> 00:14:35.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -From there, they will draft an environmental impact statement 00:14:35.400 --> 00:14:37.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that will come before my committee as a presentation. 00:14:37.901 --> 00:14:38.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% No votes. 00:14:38.968 --> 00:14:40.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% A presentation in late spring. 00:14:40.701 --> 00:14:42.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:14:42.167 --> 00:14:43.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And from there, they will solicit 00:14:43.300 --> 00:14:46.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% more community feedback for a final plan 00:14:46.667 --> 00:14:49.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that will be at the end of Quarter 4 or maybe next year. 00:14:49.133 --> 00:14:51.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I want to be really clear about something. 00:14:51.501 --> 00:14:52.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:14:52.634 --> 00:14:54.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -The major update to the comprehensive plan 00:14:54.334 --> 00:14:56.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that happens every 10 years, 00:14:56.334 --> 00:14:58.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% what's in it is not a requirement. 00:14:58.501 --> 00:15:00.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Okay. -It is the allowance. 00:15:00.667 --> 00:15:01.734 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -I see. I see. 00:15:01.734 --> 00:15:03.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -And so, right now, 00:15:03.234 --> 00:15:05.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% let's say I wanted to have duplexes 00:15:05.467 --> 00:15:07.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% or triplexes across our city, 00:15:07.767 --> 00:15:09.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because they used to be allowed in all parts of our city 00:15:09.968 --> 00:15:11.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% until the '70's. 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:12.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, let's just say I wanted to do that. 00:15:12.567 --> 00:15:13.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Fair enough. 00:15:13.734 --> 00:15:15.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I can't do that right now 00:15:15.133 --> 00:15:18.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because the major update to the comprehensive plan 00:15:18.167 --> 00:15:20.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% disallows me from doing that. 00:15:20.033 --> 00:15:21.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:15:21.234 --> 00:15:24.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Now, let's say that the major update says 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:27.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that we're going to allow duplexes and triplexes. 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:28.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:15:28.133 --> 00:15:30.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -That does not require me to allow that. 00:15:30.968 --> 00:15:32.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:15:32.067 --> 00:15:35.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -It just gives me the allowance to do so. 00:15:35.267 --> 00:15:36.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:15:36.701 --> 00:15:38.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Can I break down this whole idea with the alternatives, there? 00:15:38.767 --> 00:15:41.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Because you got, basically, all -- the first alternative, 00:15:41.734 --> 00:15:42.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which is do nothing. 00:15:42.834 --> 00:15:44.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The state requires you to do that. 00:15:44.167 --> 00:15:46.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You work it up to alternative five. 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:47.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know there's been a lot of talk about that, 00:15:47.634 --> 00:15:49.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% some of these duplexes, triplexes 00:15:49.334 --> 00:15:51.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And then, I know there's -- and maybe even some quadplexes. 00:15:51.934 --> 00:15:53.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And then, I know there's a lot of people saying 00:15:53.334 --> 00:15:56.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% "Give us an alternative six, where we can have sixplexes 00:15:56.167 --> 00:15:58.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and buildings that are up over 30 feet high," 00:15:58.267 --> 00:15:59.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and things of this nature. 00:15:59.601 --> 00:16:01.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know there's a lot of back and forth with this. 00:16:01.834 --> 00:16:04.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I just wanted to talk about, is there a place where you stand 00:16:04.267 --> 00:16:05.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% on this, in terms of these alternatives. 00:16:05.801 --> 00:16:07.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know it's a public push, here, 00:16:07.267 --> 00:16:10.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% but you have a certain alternative that you like? 00:16:10.033 --> 00:16:12.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You know, I'm really interested in what the public has to say. 00:16:12.367 --> 00:16:13.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. All right. 00:16:13.601 --> 00:16:15.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You know, I think that it is important for OPCD 00:16:15.567 --> 00:16:16.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to do their work. 00:16:16.934 --> 00:16:18.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I don't want to put my finger on the scale right now. 00:16:18.434 --> 00:16:19.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:16:19.767 --> 00:16:22.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -What I do know, though, is that duplexes and triplexes 00:16:22.400 --> 00:16:24.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have been allowed in Ballard all over the place, 00:16:24.801 --> 00:16:26.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and they fit the community character. 00:16:26.734 --> 00:16:28.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% There's a... 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:30.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just up the street from Larsen's, on 24... 00:16:30.501 --> 00:16:32.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Sure, sure. Yeah. 00:16:32.067 --> 00:16:34.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I pass by there all the time because I love Larsen's. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I worked with a graduate student 00:16:37.300 --> 00:16:39.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% at the University of Washington to identify 00:16:39.367 --> 00:16:42.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% all of the non-conforming uses in my district. 00:16:42.601 --> 00:16:43.767 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:16:43.767 --> 00:16:45.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And going through this process, 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:48.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I realized that there are two triplexes on 24th 00:16:48.868 --> 00:16:51.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that I pass by all the time. 00:16:51.067 --> 00:16:52.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% And I had no idea. 00:16:52.467 --> 00:16:54.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I thought they were just single-family homes. 00:16:54.934 --> 00:16:57.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Because you can build -- 00:16:57.133 --> 00:17:00.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the only difference between a house and a triplex 00:17:00.234 --> 00:17:03.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% is the number of doors coming out. 00:17:03.133 --> 00:17:04.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Can I ask one last question on this? 00:17:04.801 --> 00:17:06.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Because I think it's really interesting. 00:17:06.567 --> 00:17:08.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I remember the Seattle Planning Commission 00:17:08.300 --> 00:17:10.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% looking at this last year, and they were saying, 00:17:10.167 --> 00:17:13.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% "Well, there has to be a way to try to incentivize developers 00:17:13.133 --> 00:17:14.200 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% to build these things, too." 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:15.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% That can be an issue, as well, 00:17:15.501 --> 00:17:18.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because you look at Minneapolis, you look at Portland, 00:17:18.067 --> 00:17:20.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% they're saying, "No single-family housing." 00:17:20.667 --> 00:17:22.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You know, it's all open. 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:24.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They've basically done away with that. 00:17:24.267 --> 00:17:26.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But in those cities there hasn't been this big rise 00:17:26.834 --> 00:17:28.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of sixplexes, et cetera. 00:17:28.868 --> 00:17:30.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Help me out with that part, 00:17:30.267 --> 00:17:32.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because I think, as much as you need to pass some laws, 00:17:32.234 --> 00:17:33.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and make sure things are equitable, 00:17:33.667 --> 00:17:35.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you also need developers to play along, too, 00:17:35.467 --> 00:17:37.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and they need to be incentivized, potentially, 00:17:37.467 --> 00:17:38.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to build these things. 00:17:38.734 --> 00:17:40.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What do you think about that piece? 00:17:40.234 --> 00:17:42.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Well, what I know is that duplexes and triplexes 00:17:42.801 --> 00:17:44.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have been part of -- 00:17:44.300 --> 00:17:45.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and even sixplexes, small apartment building. 00:17:45.767 --> 00:17:48.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, right next to West Woodland Elementary School, 00:17:48.634 --> 00:17:50.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% there's an apartment building 00:17:50.067 --> 00:17:53.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in what is a single-family -- a neighborhood residential zone. 00:17:53.367 --> 00:17:54.767 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% That's not allowed today. 00:17:54.767 --> 00:17:57.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% What I know is that, in the past, 00:17:57.634 --> 00:17:59.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% duplexes and triplexes have been allowed 00:17:59.701 --> 00:18:01.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in what was known as single-family zoning. 00:18:01.767 --> 00:18:03.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:18:03.234 --> 00:18:06.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And so, this is already part of the fabric of our city. 00:18:06.334 --> 00:18:09.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It's -- And the important part is making sure 00:18:09.234 --> 00:18:13.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that these buildings fit the character of our communities. 00:18:13.334 --> 00:18:14.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Because the McMansions that are -- 00:18:14.767 --> 00:18:16.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% you know, the thing that I hate the most -- 00:18:16.667 --> 00:18:18.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I'll be really honest with you, Brian -- 00:18:18.667 --> 00:18:21.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% which is, you take a single-family home, 00:18:21.701 --> 00:18:23.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you demolish it, and you build a McMansion. 00:18:23.767 --> 00:18:25.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:18:25.501 --> 00:18:26.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The same number of people could have lived 00:18:26.934 --> 00:18:29.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in that original home or in the new home. 00:18:29.167 --> 00:18:31.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It doesn't help bring in any new neighbors. 00:18:31.734 --> 00:18:33.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It just.... -Yeah. 00:18:33.634 --> 00:18:35.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -...makes the community feel different. 00:18:35.601 --> 00:18:40.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, if you were to raze that, and put it in, you know, 00:18:40.167 --> 00:18:43.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% a place that still looked like our community, 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.300 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and had another -- 00:18:45.300 --> 00:18:47.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, a place for a duplex... 00:18:47.701 --> 00:18:49.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. -...that's gonna be better. 00:18:49.133 --> 00:18:52.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Or, you know, I guess the McMansions, the -- 00:18:52.534 --> 00:18:55.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it's something that I -- I -- you know? 00:18:55.734 --> 00:18:56.834 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -No, I hear you. 00:18:56.834 --> 00:18:57.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I think a lot of people have -- 00:18:57.934 --> 00:18:59.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% have some similar thoughts about that. 00:18:59.367 --> 00:19:01.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It's difficult when that new construction goes in, 00:19:01.601 --> 00:19:02.934 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% no matter what it is. 00:19:02.934 --> 00:19:05.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I think this actually dovetails into another topic 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:06.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I wanted to talk about with you, 00:19:06.801 --> 00:19:08.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% which is design review standards, 00:19:08.467 --> 00:19:09.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and putting those in place. 00:19:09.834 --> 00:19:12.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% There are some changes going on here, too. 00:19:12.067 --> 00:19:14.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% During the pandemic, I know the council, 00:19:14.300 --> 00:19:16.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the city really wanted to make sure it was building 00:19:16.334 --> 00:19:19.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as much affordable housing as process -- 00:19:19.434 --> 00:19:20.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% affordable housing as possible. 00:19:20.567 --> 00:19:22.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, they said, "Okay, let's suspend 00:19:22.167 --> 00:19:23.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% this design review process, 00:19:23.534 --> 00:19:25.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% get these affordable housing projects through 00:19:25.300 --> 00:19:26.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as quickly as possible." 00:19:26.701 --> 00:19:27.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It looks like you're trying to make that 00:19:27.968 --> 00:19:29.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% more of a permanent thing. 00:19:29.534 --> 00:19:30.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I wanted to talk about that. 00:19:30.734 --> 00:19:32.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We're in the process with, right now -- 00:19:32.033 --> 00:19:33.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that right now, the city is right. 00:19:33.234 --> 00:19:35.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Right. So, design review's broken. 00:19:35.300 --> 00:19:36.667 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:19:36.667 --> 00:19:40.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -It doesn't give the community the opportunity 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:43.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to have meaningful input, and it takes too long. 00:19:43.868 --> 00:19:45.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Is it necessary, though? 00:19:45.067 --> 00:19:46.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know a lot of people are saying, you know, 00:19:46.567 --> 00:19:48.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% "character of the neighborhood," and all these other things. 00:19:48.334 --> 00:19:49.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Help me with that part of it. 00:19:49.667 --> 00:19:52.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% For any building that wants to have a departure 00:19:52.634 --> 00:19:57.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% from building code, or, you know, design standards, 00:19:57.033 --> 00:19:58.200 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% it is required. 00:19:58.200 --> 00:19:59.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:19:59.467 --> 00:20:00.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Because that's where they get their departures. 00:20:00.467 --> 00:20:01.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:20:01.501 --> 00:20:03.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And it's also a great opportunity 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for the community to say -- you know, 00:20:06.767 --> 00:20:08.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% with the Bartell's it's across from Ballard Common. 00:20:08.767 --> 00:20:10.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, yeah. 00:20:10.167 --> 00:20:11.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Through design review, they added another entrance. 00:20:11.534 --> 00:20:12.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Right, right. -Right? 00:20:12.601 --> 00:20:14.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -To make it more accessible. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But on the other hand, if design review is being used 00:20:17.601 --> 00:20:21.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% as a way to disallow a project from being built, 00:20:21.133 --> 00:20:24.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that's not okay, because we are in a housing shortage. 00:20:24.734 --> 00:20:27.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, you know, holding up a project 00:20:27.267 --> 00:20:30.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because the brick face in the alley 00:20:30.300 --> 00:20:33.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% isn't the right color is not okay. 00:20:33.734 --> 00:20:34.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:20:34.801 --> 00:20:36.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -So, it's broken in two ways. 00:20:36.267 --> 00:20:37.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% One, it doesn't give the community real teeth 00:20:37.601 --> 00:20:38.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% to have an input, 00:20:38.901 --> 00:20:41.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and it is weaponized to take too long. 00:20:41.534 --> 00:20:43.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And it almost sounds like, to me -- 00:20:43.133 --> 00:20:44.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and I don't want to put words in your mouth, 00:20:44.901 --> 00:20:46.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but this feels like something maybe not just 00:20:46.968 --> 00:20:49.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for affordable housing, but for other projects, too. 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:51.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% What do you think about that, just long-term, here? 00:20:51.167 --> 00:20:52.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Because I know you're working on affordable housing 00:20:52.901 --> 00:20:54.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% to get that going, 00:20:54.234 --> 00:20:56.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% but we do need housing at all levels, here. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, is it -- is it an idea where we start doing away 00:20:59.133 --> 00:21:00.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% with design review? 00:21:00.367 --> 00:21:01.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Or how do you look at that? 00:21:01.501 --> 00:21:02.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We've got two tracks that we're going on. 00:21:02.868 --> 00:21:04.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, for affordable housing, 00:21:04.267 --> 00:21:06.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because that's what we need right now, and a lot of it, 00:21:06.968 --> 00:21:09.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we have exempted affordable housing 00:21:09.334 --> 00:21:11.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% from design review for one year 00:21:11.734 --> 00:21:14.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% while we create a permanent plan for affordable housing. 00:21:14.601 --> 00:21:15.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:21:15.801 --> 00:21:17.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -In regards to design review. -Yes, yes. Right. 00:21:17.234 --> 00:21:20.033 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -The second track is that 00:21:20.033 --> 00:21:22.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I had a statement of legislative intent. 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% SDCI has set up a work-- a stakeholder workgroup 00:21:25.367 --> 00:21:27.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to provide the city recommendations 00:21:27.367 --> 00:21:29.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% on how to improve design review. 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Okay. -I want to see that report. 00:21:31.033 --> 00:21:33.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You know, did I wish the report came to me sooner? 00:21:33.267 --> 00:21:34.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Absolutely. 00:21:34.701 --> 00:21:36.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Much like, did I wish that the renovations 00:21:36.100 --> 00:21:37.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to the park were done sooner? 00:21:37.367 --> 00:21:39.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Absolutely. But here we are, right? 00:21:39.167 --> 00:21:41.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It's always how do we move forward together? 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:44.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, when I get that report about recommendations 00:21:44.567 --> 00:21:47.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to change design review, we'll go from there, 00:21:47.267 --> 00:21:49.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because we do need to give the community 00:21:49.334 --> 00:21:51.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% real power to have input. 00:21:51.567 --> 00:21:52.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:21:52.634 --> 00:21:53.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And it has to be done quickly. 00:21:53.968 --> 00:21:55.334 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Thank you. 00:21:55.334 --> 00:21:57.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I wanted to work on one last land use issue 00:21:57.267 --> 00:21:58.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% with you, here, before we wrap up, 00:21:58.968 --> 00:22:01.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and that's protecting trees in Seattle. 00:22:01.667 --> 00:22:03.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You're working on a tree protection ordinance. 00:22:03.734 --> 00:22:06.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% This is something that has been talked about for decades 00:22:06.501 --> 00:22:08.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in this city, and it needs some changes. 00:22:08.801 --> 00:22:10.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I've read in different places 00:22:10.234 --> 00:22:11.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it's kind of Wild West out there, 00:22:11.534 --> 00:22:14.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% when it comes to cutting different trees, et cetera, 00:22:14.133 --> 00:22:17.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and cutting them down, and that's not a good thing. 00:22:17.100 --> 00:22:18.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I wanted to talk about this, 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:20.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and where we're going with this, as a city, right now. 00:22:20.133 --> 00:22:21.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Talk to me about this, because I know 00:22:21.534 --> 00:22:24.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it's a big concern, from environmental concerns. 00:22:24.334 --> 00:22:25.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Talk about all these heat domes we have, 00:22:25.934 --> 00:22:27.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and people not having enough cover, et cetera, 00:22:27.868 --> 00:22:29.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% climate change and all the impacts there. 00:22:29.634 --> 00:22:30.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Let me know what's going on with trees, 00:22:30.968 --> 00:22:32.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and what you're working on with this ordinance. 00:22:32.267 --> 00:22:34.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, we -- if my plans stay in place, 00:22:34.734 --> 00:22:36.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and the schedule sticks, 00:22:36.167 --> 00:22:38.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we will have three to four different committee meetings 00:22:38.701 --> 00:22:40.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in the month of February and early March 00:22:40.667 --> 00:22:43.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to address the tree ordinance. 00:22:43.067 --> 00:22:45.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I haven't had the legislation transmitted to me yet, 00:22:45.567 --> 00:22:47.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so I leave that as a caveat. 00:22:47.234 --> 00:22:48.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But this is gonna happen soon. 00:22:48.834 --> 00:22:51.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I'll send you the video that I shot this summer, 00:22:51.467 --> 00:22:55.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% where we went to a D6 resident's house, and in his backyard, 00:22:55.968 --> 00:22:58.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% he had started all of the trees in his yard from seed. 00:22:58.501 --> 00:22:59.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Wow. 00:22:59.901 --> 00:23:01.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And today, he has almost complete coverage 00:23:01.567 --> 00:23:04.033 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% over his his property. 00:23:04.033 --> 00:23:05.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And when we were in the shade, 00:23:05.434 --> 00:23:07.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it was something like 86 degrees. 00:23:07.701 --> 00:23:10.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% When we went out into the street, it was 96 degrees. 00:23:10.467 --> 00:23:11.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Right. That's a difference. 00:23:11.667 --> 00:23:14.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -The power of the tree canopy to cool our city 00:23:14.868 --> 00:23:16.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% is absolutely there. 00:23:16.801 --> 00:23:20.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And what we know is that the trees that we're planting today 00:23:20.534 --> 00:23:22.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% in 30 years from now, 00:23:22.701 --> 00:23:24.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% will create the canopy that we need. 00:23:24.901 --> 00:23:27.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, what -- there's a couple of changes 00:23:27.434 --> 00:23:28.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that we need to make, right? 00:23:28.734 --> 00:23:31.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We need to increase protections for trees. 00:23:31.434 --> 00:23:33.300 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% We need to clarify rules. 00:23:33.300 --> 00:23:36.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We need to have an in-lieu fee, in case a tree does --- 00:23:36.334 --> 00:23:39.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that is a new protected tree needs to be cut down, 00:23:39.901 --> 00:23:42.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that we have funding to be able to plant more trees 00:23:42.968 --> 00:23:45.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that are native, and that are climate resilient. 00:23:45.567 --> 00:23:46.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:23:46.901 --> 00:23:49.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Because, you know, my arborist friends will tell me 00:23:49.701 --> 00:23:52.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Seattle is the largest botanical garden in the state. 00:23:52.067 --> 00:23:53.300 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:23:53.300 --> 00:23:55.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Because so many of our trees aren't native. 00:23:55.367 --> 00:23:58.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And the the product of that is, also, 00:23:58.601 --> 00:24:01.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% there's a lot of trees here that are not climate resilient. 00:24:01.334 --> 00:24:02.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -I see. 00:24:02.367 --> 00:24:04.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -As we become a hotter area, 00:24:04.367 --> 00:24:08.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we need trees that will be able to survive these changes. 00:24:08.334 --> 00:24:09.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Can I go down one path with you, here? 00:24:09.734 --> 00:24:12.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Because you talked earlier about, sometimes, 00:24:12.133 --> 00:24:13.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% when legislation gets weaponize -- 00:24:13.634 --> 00:24:15.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and it does happen, sometimes. 00:24:15.167 --> 00:24:16.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% I look at this one, 00:24:16.267 --> 00:24:18.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and I see a lot of people who very honestly 00:24:18.033 --> 00:24:19.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% want to save trees. 00:24:19.100 --> 00:24:20.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Sure. -That's their thing. 00:24:20.334 --> 00:24:22.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But then, you have other people in neighborhoods 00:24:22.267 --> 00:24:24.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% who are saying, "We don't want development here, 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:27.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so let's use this tree ordinance as a way to stop that." 00:24:27.300 --> 00:24:29.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It makes for a very interesting balance, there, 00:24:29.167 --> 00:24:31.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because I know that our area needs density. 00:24:31.667 --> 00:24:33.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You want to try to make sure that that's happening. 00:24:33.300 --> 00:24:35.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know we need trees, as well. 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:36.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Help me out with that thought. 00:24:36.434 --> 00:24:38.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% When a -- When an ordinance like this could potentially 00:24:38.167 --> 00:24:39.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% get weaponized, that's not a good thing. 00:24:39.734 --> 00:24:41.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Absolutely. It's not a good thing. 00:24:41.367 --> 00:24:43.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think one of the biggest problems right now 00:24:43.300 --> 00:24:45.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is that there's a lack of clarity 00:24:45.234 --> 00:24:47.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about what trees can be cut down, 00:24:47.267 --> 00:24:48.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and what trees cannot be cut down, 00:24:48.968 --> 00:24:52.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and there's not a mechanism to increase protections, 00:24:52.033 --> 00:24:55.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and, in the cases that the tree needs to be cut down, 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a way to plant more trees from it. 00:24:57.334 --> 00:24:59.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, I'll ask you this question -- 00:24:59.033 --> 00:25:01.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which has higher protections, 00:25:01.634 --> 00:25:04.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% a significant tree or an exceptional tree? 00:25:04.167 --> 00:25:05.934 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Okay. 00:25:05.934 --> 00:25:07.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Hard to tell. -Yeah, right. 00:25:07.367 --> 00:25:10.534 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% [ Indistinct talking ] 00:25:10.534 --> 00:25:11.567 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -[ Stammers ] 00:25:11.567 --> 00:25:13.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I think it's "exceptional.' 00:25:13.868 --> 00:25:15.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I mean, what is stronger? 00:25:15.968 --> 00:25:17.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Sure. 00:25:17.133 --> 00:25:18.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -So if we -- if I said to you, 00:25:18.434 --> 00:25:20.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "Tier one, Tier two, Tier three..." 00:25:20.234 --> 00:25:21.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, okay. 00:25:21.367 --> 00:25:22.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -...it's a little bit more clear. 00:25:22.467 --> 00:25:23.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I see what you're saying. -Right? 00:25:23.567 --> 00:25:26.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% If there's a tree in the setback 00:25:26.234 --> 00:25:28.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that is not gonna be impacted by a development, 00:25:28.834 --> 00:25:30.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% why should it be cut down? 00:25:30.501 --> 00:25:34.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You know, I've seen, in developments up in Crown Hill, 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% where trees were cut down, the building was then built, 00:25:38.334 --> 00:25:41.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and trees were planted where those trees were cut down from. 00:25:41.100 --> 00:25:42.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% That has to stop. -Yeah. 00:25:42.434 --> 00:25:44.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And that -- there are two lots 00:25:44.968 --> 00:25:46.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that I'm thinking of in this example, 00:25:46.701 --> 00:25:48.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% both single-family homes, 00:25:48.267 --> 00:25:51.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and now there's something to 18 to 25 homes. 00:25:51.367 --> 00:25:52.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Right? 00:25:52.501 --> 00:25:53.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% When we're talking about the need 00:25:53.567 --> 00:25:55.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to make places for new neighbors -- 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because we've had so many new people move to Seattle. 00:25:58.167 --> 00:25:59.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:25:59.634 --> 00:26:01.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And we need to make space for them. 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And so, how do we create this new housing 00:26:03.267 --> 00:26:04.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% while protecting trees? 00:26:04.801 --> 00:26:06.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Got it. 00:26:06.267 --> 00:26:07.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We've got about a minute left, here, Council Member Strauss. 00:26:07.734 --> 00:26:08.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Is there anything else on your mind? 00:26:08.934 --> 00:26:10.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I know you're always working on something. 00:26:10.367 --> 00:26:12.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% The council is always working on something. 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:13.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We've covered a lot of different land use issues. 00:26:13.901 --> 00:26:15.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Anything else going on in your mind, 00:26:15.267 --> 00:26:17.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% with regard to what's happening with the council, 00:26:17.033 --> 00:26:18.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% or stuff you have planned down the line? 00:26:18.534 --> 00:26:20.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You know, I've really been focusing on District Six. 00:26:20.367 --> 00:26:22.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I've been doing it for years. 00:26:22.467 --> 00:26:25.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I've opened a District Six office. 00:26:25.434 --> 00:26:26.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% The second day that I was in office. 00:26:26.834 --> 00:26:28.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It closed down during the pandemic. 00:26:28.634 --> 00:26:31.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% We were able to reopen it when Mayor Harrow allowed people 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:32.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to go back into the office. 00:26:32.667 --> 00:26:34.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And so, I've been -- I work half time from 00:26:34.901 --> 00:26:36.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the District Six office in Ballard, 00:26:36.434 --> 00:26:37.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% at the Ballard Library, 00:26:37.701 --> 00:26:40.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and half time in the City Hall office downtown. 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And it's just a great experience to be with the people 00:26:43.033 --> 00:26:44.334 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% of District Six. 00:26:44.334 --> 00:26:46.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I know that a lot of people are connecting with -- 00:26:46.100 --> 00:26:47.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% connecting with you at that office. 00:26:47.501 --> 00:26:50.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, glad for this visit, here, Council Member Strauss. 00:26:50.300 --> 00:26:51.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% One more time. -Great to see you, Brian. 00:26:51.534 --> 00:26:52.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Good to be here. 00:26:52.767 --> 00:26:54.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Thank you very much, Council member Dan Strauss 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.133 align:middle line:00% position:69% size:90% We're here... -Hattie's Hat. 00:26:56.133 --> 00:26:57.934 align:middle line:00% position:69% size:90% -...at Hattie's Hat in District Six. 00:26:57.934 --> 00:26:59.701 align:middle line:00% position:69% size:90% And I thank you for joining me, Council Member Strauss. 00:26:59.701 --> 00:27:01.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We'll see you next time on "Council Edition." 00:27:01.367 --> 00:27:07.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:13.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:19.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:27:19.434 --> 00:27:25.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪